I agree with you Tom. The conservatives like all that fracking and drilling.
Facts are facts. Finding any plot of land ,no matter where it is, is fine with the fracking companies. To refresh memories, Highland Hts was going to put wells in the FAMILY PARK until it was voted down at the meeting at city hall.....NO one is considered when it comes to making a buck,only their own pockets.
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"DRILL, BABY, DRILL!!!"

So yes, it's a "Republican Party issue". As are the unregulated and barely taxed aspects.

well garry ....somebody has to help pay for that new healthcare TAX

If there was such a TAX to be paid, it won't be the hydraulic fracturing companies paying it.

Corporations may have rights, but they don't get sick, or take part in the individual mandate requirements.

It's only dumb to people like you because facts are something you either ignore and turn a blind eye to. Pay attention and perhaps you won't be so ignorant.
Let's also look at who has control of all branches in Ohio gov't.
Care to make another ignorant comment? Yeah, you'd be best served to remain silent.

Me too, and mother fracking also. Who knew.
Whats next-the "S" word is a type of farming????

Mary Lou, you need to educate yourself about fracking. Except in very rare circumstances, fracking does not cause any water pollution when done correctly. There are many regulations that must be followed, and the process is safe and very effective. (The issue of whether to drill under cemeteries is open, however, for other understandable reasons.)

And about money being king, do you air condition your house? Drive a car? Heat your house in the winter? Watch TV? Use a computer? If so, then you need energy. It has to come from somewhere. And natural gas is a relatively clean source of energy, and quite economical, too.

-Bob

Bob - you are very mistaken about the process being safe and effective. Fracking involves injecting a highly polluted mining by-product slurry into the ground so forcefully that it can travel through the already-broken (by the mining process) rock layers. It is a proven source of the earthquakes last year in Youngstown among other environmental problems. There are several states which have rejected fracking disposal (and one that has made it outright illegal). Ohio is very short-sighted to desire to be a leader in this industry. We are short selling our children's natural resource inheritance.

Anita, read the ruling, the only reason that the Affordable Health Care Act was consider constitutional was because it was a tax. It is NOT constitutional as a penalty, you can't have it both ways.

"The Affordable Care Act's requirement that certain individuals pay a financial penalty for not obtaining health insurance may reasonably be characterized as a tax. Because the Constitution permits such a tax, it is not our role to forbid it, or to pass upon its wisdom or fairness," Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in the ruling.

But, to stay on topic, what difference does it make if the fracking is done under a cemetery or under public lands or in someone's backyard? Its a question of zoning and property rights. The cemeteries are not public land, if they have the permitting and zoning who are you tell them what they can and can not do on their land.

FYI there are already two gas wells under Lake View Cemetery and they are not that intrusive.

Well: 34035219080000
Company: Bass Energy Co. Inc.
Permit Date: 6/21/2006

Well: 34035219090000
Company: Bass Energy Co. Inc.
Permit Date: 6/21/2006

If your going to allow fracking in the Heights, frankly the cemeteries are the best places to drill. Better there then Cain Park or in your neighbor's back yard

Carlton - how do you define "not that intrusive"?

Not that intrusive in that you really don't notice the well heads.

Here is an example of what the finished well head looks like at St. Clare Church
http://bassenergyco.com/images/StClare-Church.jpg

Bass Energy's website has examples of how they finish the well head.

Now the actual process of hydraulic fracturing is highly intrusive, but one the drilling is done, you don't need a large footprint for housing the well head.

Anita perhaps you should take your own advice on the fact that YOU need to do research before responding with your childish talking points ....Obamacare is a tax (which is how obamas lawyers even argued it) oh and anita that means everyone has to pay this TAX rich and poor

So, Carlton ... out of sight, out of mind???

With fracking, it's what happening our of sight underground that is intrusive!

Peter, do you have lights in your house? Do you have electric or gas heating in your home? Do you drive a car or use plastic? Well where exactly do you think all these petrochemicals and fuels come from? They come from someone's backyard. In other words, "out of sight out of mind." We've had a NIMBY mind set for 50 years and now we are being priced out of the marginal barrel. Now I'm not advocating hydraulic fracturing in Cleveland Heights, however, if a community wants to develop a field, that's there business. Anyways you slice it the economy runs on access to cheap energy and petrochemical feed stocks. This is an empirical fact.

There is a lot of sensationalized stories about hydraulic fracturing, I'd recommend that your hear both side of this. Some of the anti-fracking theories don't hold water, while others truly are a concern..excess uncontrolled methane release, illegal dumping of fracking fluids, wear and tare on roads and bridges, etc. However, this is a relatively new industry and just like how in the early 1900s they used to just dump oil in pits for storage, the technology will improve and many of these issues can be resolved.

At $2.90 per MM/BTUs I don't understand the argument for drilling in urban areas were it could be conceived as intrusive. However, at $14 MM/BTUs we better drill everywhere we can or there will be a lot more people unemployed.

What in the h-e-double-hockey-sticks does ACA have to do with THIS?

Oh, nothing.

Money talks. People are promised money then the payment dwindles,property value goes down, well has problems....etc.
The drilling companies are like snake oil salesmen.

its a tax anita ....no matter how you want to spin it word it or imply it, at the end of the day it is a T-A-X

The ACA has nothing to do with this.

Stop hijacking -- and get your own blog.

People are not going to follow terms of service, Michelle, when there is no enforcement. Some posters have been violating TOS for months, commenting regularly, and nothing has been done. Patch needs to drop the requirement if they are not going to enforce it.

waaaaaaa debbie I would say 60% are not using full/real names there is a lot of family guy,simpsons,pulp fiction names mixed in
but Debbie if that is all you are going to comment about (off topic) why bother even posting anything (nobody cares)

James - Patch apparently cares (although not ALL Patch editors, obviously). Also, I have more to say which is relevant to the topic, but I was in the middle of preparing dinner for my family. Obviously YOU don't care, but there are more people in this world than you, sir, so I shall keep raising the issue with Patch (since it's their rule).

no money from anywhere goes TO the IRS all they do is collect the taxes for the government so this will be just another item for the IRS to collect

thats not what the supreme court ruled, they ruled that if it is not a tax then obamacare is illegal

Stop hijacking

they move cemeteries all the time in the name of progress why is this different

"all the time"?

Recent examples, please.

Reproduce? The human race will reproduce the same way we have for century after century. The same way other mammals on Earth reproduce. Male and female unite to make a baby. I must have missed the part in biology class where they pointed out fracking was so important for us to reproduce. WWJD... Where would Jesus drill?